SmartTalk, Episode 5

In which SmartTalk goes on the road to Dallas, Texas, prompting Victor and Mark to discuss feedback from their listeners, whether Mark really hates attorneys, the advantages of doing nothing, Victor's aversion to bunk beds, The California Switchblade and other marketing excesses, do-it-yourself logos, marketing with no money, the fear factor, a question of confidence, the screw-up as opportunity, whole-plus-one, and whether or not Mark can say "shit" on a podcast. 

SmartTalk - Ep 5